Sunday, October 29, 2006

Hiero vs. Hobo

In 1994, Saafir made a brilliant guest appearance on Casual's debut album Fear Itself. Saafir wanted Casual to return the favor on his own debut, Boxcar Sessions, but for whatever reason Casual didn't show up. Saafir took it personally, and soon his crew, the Hobo Junction, was beefing with Casual's Hieroglyphics crew. They agreed to settle it in a battle broadcast on Sway and Tech's Wake Up Show. There was dispute about whether Saafir was using written rhymes, and whether he had warned he would do so beforehand. But when you hear him open his first verse "Did your momma tell you that you was my son," sounding "like he could swallow the fucking planet" (as Cocaine Blunts described him), it doesn't really seem to matter.

The entire battle is long (over 45 minutes) but there's stuff worth hearing throughout. Click the second link if you just want to hear the opening few salvoes from Casual and Saafir, before their soldiers get involved.

Hiero vs. Hobo (whole battle)
Casual vs. Saafir

Less remembered is the pre-battle battle which took place at San Francisco's Crash Palace. The sound quality is poor, but it's part of the history, so here you go:

Crash Palace battle


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for this, the Battle and those drums are so you know from where those drums were sampled?

November 01, 2006 12:52 PM  
Blogger Nesta said...

Which part? There's a lot of different drums throughout.

November 01, 2006 11:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My bad, Here they are:
00:00-11:05 Drums: ?
11:05-13:45 Drums:Melvin Bliss - Synthetic Substitution?
13:58-19:09 Drums:Skull Snaps-It's A New Day
19:09-23:59 Drums: Lee Dorsey - Get Out Of My Life Woman
23:59-27:20 Drums: ?
31:06-37:07 Drums: The Honeydrippers - Impeach the President
37:07-38:17 Beat: ?
38:17-46:56 Beat: Craig Mack - Flava in ya ear

November 02, 2006 3:21 PM  
Blogger Nesta said...

I can't get the link to play right now for some reason, so I'll have to check the tape when I get a chance. I'm not a breaks expert though, so hopefully someone else can chime in if they know...

November 03, 2006 12:44 AM  
Blogger Andyman187 said...

Those drums at the Beginnig are on a record called The Bozo Meko EP and its Called "Spread Love Remix". I just picked up that EP this weekend. Also has a few other remixes then on the Flip it has BDP - Bridge is over Clean, xxx Rated n Instrumental. Those drums are crazy tho.

November 04, 2006 8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot Andyman187, after doing some research i found that the 45 king sampled those drums from "Cussin', Cryin' and Carryin' On" by Tina & Ike.

November 05, 2006 10:38 PM  
Blogger Nesta said...

Sorry for being so slow to respond.

Anyway, the 2nd set is not "Synthetic Substitution." Somewhat similar, but I'm not sure what it is. I also can't identify the two others.

November 13, 2006 7:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can somebody re-post the crash-palace mp3? I remember listening to the radio battle while it was actually going down but I only heard talk about the Crash battle. thx - peace.


January 02, 2007 3:52 PM  
Blogger Nesta said...

I'll get it back up, maybe not until the weekend though. Post me a reminder if I don't do it soon.

January 02, 2007 7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reminder time... I'm buggin' to hear that crash battle! Thx. T.

March 08, 2007 1:49 AM  
Blogger bottomlesspedro said...

woah! you've got the crash palace recording?!?!?! i've only heard of it, i'd appreciate it if you could reup that when you've got the time. thanks!

March 15, 2007 2:29 AM  
Blogger Nesta said...

Crash Palace battle is back up. Sorry for the long delay.

March 16, 2007 11:39 PM  
Blogger bottomlesspedro said...

Thanks a million for reupping this one, Nesta! Your site is dope!

March 21, 2007 9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what that beat is that plays right before flava in ya ear? I've been looking for it ever since I heard this battle

March 23, 2007 12:47 PM  
Blogger jay said...

thanks for this! i remember hearing this live on the air and knowing history was being made.

March 30, 2007 7:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Opio and pep were fresh!!!

May 17, 2008 11:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can we possibly get re-ups of cas vs saafir and the crash palace please?

October 28, 2008 9:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could you re-up these great battles please?

All are classic and I'd love to hear them again it's been a long time since I have..

Thanks in advance..

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Anonymous Shaun D. aka Wicked said...

Here's the Classic freestyle battle between Casual & Hieroglyphics and Saafir & Hobo Junction which aired live on The King Tech Wake Up Show in San Francisco on the main Hiphop/R&B commercial radio station 106.1 KMEL. Big ups to my boy Felix aka The Friendly Traveler for coming through with the last 15 minutes of the battle cuz back when I recorded this, I had left the house while it was recording to head out to the local import street races. Yes, I was one of those guys like in The Fast & Furious. haha Wicked Racing represent!!! But yeah, my tape ran out and I never had the last 15 mins of the battle til my boy hooked me up. Enjoy...

The King Tech Wake Up Show
with Sway, King Tech, Kevvy Kev, Joe Quixx and Prince Ice
106.1 KMEL San Francisco Friday November 18, 1994 10pm-1am

-Intro with Sway & Kevvy Kev
The B.U.M.S. - It's A Street Fight
Born Jamericans - Wake Up Show Promo
Souls Of Mischief - '93 Til Infinity
Saafir - Battle Drill
Extra Prolific - Brown Sugar (Domino's Player Remix)
Artifacts feat. Busta Rhymes - C'mon Wit Da Git Down (Remix)
-Talk Break with Sway
Nine - Whatcha Want
-Freestyle Battle: Casual & Hieroglyphics vs. Saafir & Hobo Junction
Souls Of Mischief - '93 Til Infinity (Remix)
-Freestyle Battle continued...
-Talk Break with Sway, King Tech, Kevvy Kev & Evol

Time: 77:46
Size: 142 MB
Quality: 256

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